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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
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Posted - 2016.05.06 10:09:53 -
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So your corp asks you to be self-sufficient and fly doctrines, what do you get in return? Eve is a game of actions and consequences. Those that say PVP is nothing bit an ISK sink have never defended anything of actual value. Something that, for instance, would enable a corp / alliance to at least support their members to get into those ships. Anything between local markets and actual pre-fitted fleets ready to be insured and boarded.
Let's say that your corp holds a few POCO's and your tax is 0%. Or holds an area where good PVE content is found. Utilize that space. If your corp is effective at driving out competitors the sites are yours. Members profit. Yeah, you can tell people to "go run incursions" or something like that but it requires them to flutter about. The conquest game is also about shaping the universe itself to your group's advantage. You don't get to run good sites in bling ships without making other people think twice about entering your living space. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
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Posted - 2016.05.09 17:55:33 -
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Miktek, I myself am also unsure as how to determine a corp's culture looking from the outside in. Fact is tho... corps need people. People don't need corps. OR alliances. If leadership never gives anything back, that group will eventually disintegrate. I've never met a player that didn't like the idea of not having to risk his own ship in a stratop. We're not the biggest corp, but nobody ever left because they felt we drained their wallet with PVP demands. It's silly and would have lost us people. But I'm telling this from a lowsec pespective, where the money isn't free and system security doesn't exist. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
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Posted - 2016.05.11 22:00:33 -
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Hi Miktek. I think it depends on a lot of factors to determine what is normal or what should be normal. We are forgetting scope here. When I do PVE I do so leasurely. I am not in any hurry and I do not worry about ISK/Hr. So I do not join any Incursion fleets but cherrypick content from lowsec's menu. What content you can consume is largely SP based.
PVP expense is not. Example?
Say I run belts in a lowsec system that has 15+ belts and has 0.2 sec stat. Clone tags from that system would sell for idk, say 25m to make things easy. I run that system in a modest Cynabal config, perhaps get lucky and nab two tags. This might take me about half an hour or so because as I said, I am in no rush.
But I made 50m.
I can PVP all night on 50m if I wanted to. I would pick the scope of frigates. This is how I could potentially spend the majority of time actually PVPing. SRP just helps to increase potential scope. Because the actions tied to gaining that ISK (moongoo,poco income) are minute compared to people running PVE content actively. It's a slow continuous crawl compared to a burst of PVE activity in the daily schedule of a human being. Hence leading to the replacement of more costly fleets at less effort. And thus a larger scope of combat.
War. |
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